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T O P I C R E V I E WGemini30Women with Neptune aspects, dominant Neptune, or dominant Pisces i've noticed seem to always attract clingy, possessive men.My Aunt who is also like a big sister to me, has Venus Conj Neptune in Sag, Neptune square ASC, Sun conj Neptune. Her boyfriend is very clingy and possessive of her. He always calls her and asks her where she is and what she is doing, yet she gets off on it! She loves the attention she receieves from her Boyfriend. They have been together for almost 2 years. So i ask if Neptune influenced women are into clingy men?LerenaIt's possible. I don't consider myself Neptune-influenced, but I also tend to like clingy men. This is because I have severe abandonment issues and when a guy gives me so much attention I end up feeling like I won't be abandoned. Clingy = stable and secure in my brain. I don't know how this works. Of course, a man does need to have other traits.SikandaI don't know, I like clingy men I guess, if clingy means that they care and they want to know about you. I like to be given the attention it's due. Even if they are a little bit possessive I wouldn't mind unless it is an exaggerated trait. My chart is ruled by Venus, so no idea where this comes from (Well probably my Taurus ascendant, and the Virgo and Capricorn in me, but I don't have much water in me).next to neptuneI'm very neptunian, got pisces moon, cancer ascendant, and mercury square neptune is my closest aspect... but I attract both the very possessive guys and the totally opposite. Apparently no in between lolOne of my exes was extremely possessive and jealous, and I couldn't handle that... maybe its also to do with that Im a scorpio venus, so I'm supposed to be the possessive one:P I attract very many detached types though, especially air energy.... I attract many libras, geminis and aquarius people. I just don't roll with that energy, I like someone who is normal lol VioletsI'm not. I like it when they prefer to be around me as much as I do them (and I am pretty clingy), but I don't like clinginess. Apparently I think I'm the only one who should be allowed to be clingy. But really, I think it's my Aries Venus who likes just a little bit of a challenge.PixieJaneI've tolerated possessive a couple of times (assuming I'm understanding what you mean by possessive), but I never have, and never will, tolerate clingy. My Neptune is in a 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune), sextile to my 3H sun and stellium.My BFF is a magnet for clingy guys (Sag Neptune, squaring her Pisces moon, Merc, and Mars, and sextile her Libra stellium), but I believe it's her Pisces placements that makes her far too selfless (especially mixed with her Aquarius sun and Venus) that gets her to tolerate the crap she has put up with. I've confronted some (would've more if she let me), including one who made her install tracking software into her phone so he always knew where she was, and then would text to demand explanations. What an insecure, selfish idiot (or worse). I was so shocked when I first encountered it that I let her hold me back, but in retrospect, I should've tore into him immediately after I learned he was making her text even as she was driving (putting her life at risk along with the lives of others just to satiate his ego) to answer his moronic questions about why she was where she was or where she was going that could damn well wait (and shouldn't have been a burning issue anyway). Violets^ Wow. Off topic...That beats even MY Pluto opposite Venus, which is saying quite a bit. Even I'm not that possessive, and I thought I was pretty bad. missblyssI am a Pisces sun, with sun sextile neptune, mercury sextile neptune, and venus sq neptune and I am so unattracted to clingy men. I will cut it off with guys if they are too into me, or seem to possessive or clingy. It's just a headache!that being said I have MANY uranus aspects alsoGemini30 quote:Originally posted by missblyss:I am a Pisces sun, with sun sextile neptune, mercury sextile neptune, and venus sq neptune and I am so unattracted to clingy men. I will cut it off with guys if they are too into me, or seem to possessive or clingy. It's just a headache!that being said I have MANY uranus aspects alsoThat figures. Uruanus is like that. Mind if i ask what your Uranus aspects are?Piscean TigressI'm Neptunian (Neptune conjunct ASC and opposite Moon) with a heavy load Pisces 4th house (with asteroids, Mercury, and Sun). I had few relationships in my life, but always I had to deal with clingy and possessive men. Everytime!! I never understand what kind of woman they see in me... My behavior it's not Piscean, is stronger, but I reflect piscean aspects too. HadesFishNo, but I absolutely love the initial thought of it.If only the first courting moment could last forever.Guy comes and sits beside me. Courting period over. Only because we must speak. ------------------All that glitters is not Gold.missblyss quote:Originally posted by Gemini30: That figures. Uruanus is like that. Mind if i ask what your Uranus aspects are?Uranus conjunction Neptune orb +3°15'Uranus trine Midheaven orb +1°35'Sun sextile Uranus orb -1°58'Venus square Uranus orb -3°29'Mercury sextile Uranus orb -2°04'Mars inconjunction Uranus orb +1°15'Uranus bi-quintile Ascendant orb -0°39'Gemini30 quote:Originally posted by HadesFish:No, but I absolutely love the initial thought of it.If only the first courting moment could last forever.Guy comes and sits beside me. Courting period over. Only because we must speak. Hahaha thats cute. What in your chart do you believe makes you like clingy men?diamondbabyIn my experience yes, I noticed the same thing with Neptune dominant women.FaithQ: Are all clingy men into Neptunian women?A: Apparently. And I mean, someone has to get the clingy men out of the dating pool to make it safe for others to swim in. This is one of Pisces' many hard jobs in life. ETA: KiddingI get annoyed at topics that put me on the defensive.Violets quote:Originally posted by missblyss:that being said I have MANY uranus aspects alsoThat's a good point. I do also. I know we have the same Sun/Moon/Asc, but do we also have the same Venus?I am possessive, and occasionally clingy...but less the latter than the former. Piscean Tigress quote:Originally posted by Violets: That's a good point. I do also. I know we have the same Sun/Moon/Asc, but do we also have the same Venus?I am possessive, and occasionally clingy...but less the latter than the former. I have too Uranus aspected to Venus (opposition) and Moon (trine) I'm not clingy at all, but my wide opposition (out of sign) Pluto-Venus makes me possessive sometimes, but only when I care for.missblyss quote:Originally posted by Violets: That's a good point. I do also. I know we have the same Sun/Moon/Asc, but do we also have the same Venus?I am possessive, and occasionally clingy...but less the latter than the former. I've got Venus in Aries MarandanaMy sister have neptune in the first house and she's the one who is clingy, but...the men she has dated seem perfectly fine with it.aquagembaby quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:I've tolerated possessive a couple of times (assuming I'm understanding what you mean by possessive), but I never have, and never will, tolerate clingy. My Neptune is in a 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune), sextile to my 3H sun and stellium.My BFF is a magnet for clingy guys (Sag Neptune, squaring her Pisces moon, Merc, and Mars, and sextile her Libra stellium), but I believe it's her Pisces placements that makes her far too selfless (especially mixed with her Aquarius sun and Venus) that gets her to tolerate the crap she has put up with. I've confronted some (would've more if she let me), including one who made her install tracking software into her phone so he always knew where she was, and then would text to demand explanations. What an insecure, selfish idiot (or worse). I was so shocked when I first encountered it that I let her hold me back, but in retrospect, I should've tore into him immediately after I learned he was making her text even as she was driving (putting her life at risk along with the lives of others just to satiate his ego) to answer his moronic questions about why she was where she was or where she was going that could damn well wait (and shouldn't have been a burning issue anyway). I attract emotionally unstable and needy guys and I also have Sun in Aquarius and Venus in Aquarius. I don't have nearly as much Neptune as your friend (Neptune in 1st conjunct Uranus and Mercury, and a couple minor aspects w/ Neptune) Is this a theme...? And am I doomed lol12muddyNah I'm not into clingy people. I don't like that in interpersonal relationships. Intimacy and affection are very good stuff, clingy-ness is not. There's a certain point where it becomes suffocating and becomes a liability.If they don't get what they want from me, eventually there might even be controlling behavior and emotional manipulation. Ugh just thinking about it alone makes my skin crawl. No one lords over my life. But I have a lot of saturn influence and a fair bit of uranus influence too, so... Violets quote:Originally posted by missblyss: I've got Venus in Aries Me too. SagicalI have Venus in Pisces square to Neptune/Jupiter conjunct in Sag. My moon trines Neptune.I'm not into clingy men...... my sun opposite Uranus wouldn't like that......yungang_grottoMy tightest aspect is a Moon/Neptune conjunction 0'02 minutes of arc, in Cap... sextile Mercury/Pluto in Scorpio, opposite Chiron in Cancer, sextile NN. I also have Venus in Libra in the 12th house.And yes, I must admit to liking clingy partners... though I wouldn't like TRUE clingy, not so much so that i get zero breathing room (have attracted one like that), but I like how my present partner is over at my house every night reliably... and checks in... and cares. I wouldn't be likely to get into something with someone who just disappeared for days at a time. I'd be really unhappy. He doesn't interrogate me and is really an independent person... I seem to go for either Cancer stelliums or folks with strong Sagittarius these days... yet this present guy isn't clingy like Cancer, has Cancer on the 2nd house cusp though so he is pretty sentimental and clingy when it comes to money and resources! ... he has a lot of Taurus planets--Venus/Mars/Mercury... and as a Scorpio rising/Sun/Mercury/Pluto I really like Taurus' brand of possessiveness.... makes me feel secure. But his Sagittarius descendant makes him a bit unpredictable. He wants certain kinds of loyalty and obeisance but also needs and wants someone distant and independent... very tricky. It often produces situations where he is with two people: one who is unattainable and one who is totally there for him but whom he doesn't feel totally devoted to. His Venus/Chiron conjunction is partly to blame, as well as a Sagittarius South Node in the 7th house conjunct Neptune... so his Neptune-ness is fraught. He does have Juno in Pisces too.But anyway... he seems to be interested in what I do.. and to value the security the relationship brings him also. I know some of this is due to our personal insecurities and some of it just means we enjoy being together and staying in touch, being accountable to one another.
My Aunt who is also like a big sister to me, has Venus Conj Neptune in Sag, Neptune square ASC, Sun conj Neptune. Her boyfriend is very clingy and possessive of her. He always calls her and asks her where she is and what she is doing, yet she gets off on it! She loves the attention she receieves from her Boyfriend. They have been together for almost 2 years.
So i ask if Neptune influenced women are into clingy men?
I don't consider myself Neptune-influenced, but I also tend to like clingy men. This is because I have severe abandonment issues and when a guy gives me so much attention I end up feeling like I won't be abandoned. Clingy = stable and secure in my brain. I don't know how this works. Of course, a man does need to have other traits.
One of my exes was extremely possessive and jealous, and I couldn't handle that... maybe its also to do with that Im a scorpio venus, so I'm supposed to be the possessive one:P I attract very many detached types though, especially air energy.... I attract many libras, geminis and aquarius people. I just don't roll with that energy, I like someone who is normal lol
I like it when they prefer to be around me as much as I do them (and I am pretty clingy), but I don't like clinginess.
Apparently I think I'm the only one who should be allowed to be clingy.
But really, I think it's my Aries Venus who likes just a little bit of a challenge.
My Neptune is in a 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune), sextile to my 3H sun and stellium.
My BFF is a magnet for clingy guys (Sag Neptune, squaring her Pisces moon, Merc, and Mars, and sextile her Libra stellium), but I believe it's her Pisces placements that makes her far too selfless (especially mixed with her Aquarius sun and Venus) that gets her to tolerate the crap she has put up with. I've confronted some (would've more if she let me), including one who made her install tracking software into her phone so he always knew where she was, and then would text to demand explanations. What an insecure, selfish idiot (or worse). I was so shocked when I first encountered it that I let her hold me back, but in retrospect, I should've tore into him immediately after I learned he was making her text even as she was driving (putting her life at risk along with the lives of others just to satiate his ego) to answer his moronic questions about why she was where she was or where she was going that could damn well wait (and shouldn't have been a burning issue anyway).
Off topic...That beats even MY Pluto opposite Venus, which is saying quite a bit. Even I'm not that possessive, and I thought I was pretty bad.
that being said I have MANY uranus aspects also
quote:Originally posted by missblyss:I am a Pisces sun, with sun sextile neptune, mercury sextile neptune, and venus sq neptune and I am so unattracted to clingy men. I will cut it off with guys if they are too into me, or seem to possessive or clingy. It's just a headache!that being said I have MANY uranus aspects also
That figures. Uruanus is like that. Mind if i ask what your Uranus aspects are?
I had few relationships in my life, but always I had to deal with clingy and possessive men. Everytime!! I never understand what kind of woman they see in me... My behavior it's not Piscean, is stronger, but I reflect piscean aspects too.
Guy comes and sits beside me. Courting period over. Only because we must speak.
------------------All that glitters is not Gold.
quote:Originally posted by Gemini30: That figures. Uruanus is like that. Mind if i ask what your Uranus aspects are?
Uranus conjunction Neptune orb +3°15'Uranus trine Midheaven orb +1°35'Sun sextile Uranus orb -1°58'Venus square Uranus orb -3°29'Mercury sextile Uranus orb -2°04'Mars inconjunction Uranus orb +1°15'Uranus bi-quintile Ascendant orb -0°39'
quote:Originally posted by HadesFish:No, but I absolutely love the initial thought of it.If only the first courting moment could last forever.Guy comes and sits beside me. Courting period over. Only because we must speak.
Hahaha thats cute. What in your chart do you believe makes you like clingy men?
A: Apparently.
And I mean, someone has to get the clingy men out of the dating pool to make it safe for others to swim in. This is one of Pisces' many hard jobs in life.
ETA: Kidding
I get annoyed at topics that put me on the defensive.
quote:Originally posted by missblyss:that being said I have MANY uranus aspects also
That's a good point. I do also. I know we have the same Sun/Moon/Asc, but do we also have the same Venus?
I am possessive, and occasionally clingy...but less the latter than the former.
quote:Originally posted by Violets: That's a good point. I do also. I know we have the same Sun/Moon/Asc, but do we also have the same Venus?I am possessive, and occasionally clingy...but less the latter than the former.
I have too Uranus aspected to Venus (opposition) and Moon (trine)
I'm not clingy at all, but my wide opposition (out of sign) Pluto-Venus makes me possessive sometimes, but only when I care for.
I've got Venus in Aries
quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:I've tolerated possessive a couple of times (assuming I'm understanding what you mean by possessive), but I never have, and never will, tolerate clingy. My Neptune is in a 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune), sextile to my 3H sun and stellium.My BFF is a magnet for clingy guys (Sag Neptune, squaring her Pisces moon, Merc, and Mars, and sextile her Libra stellium), but I believe it's her Pisces placements that makes her far too selfless (especially mixed with her Aquarius sun and Venus) that gets her to tolerate the crap she has put up with. I've confronted some (would've more if she let me), including one who made her install tracking software into her phone so he always knew where she was, and then would text to demand explanations. What an insecure, selfish idiot (or worse). I was so shocked when I first encountered it that I let her hold me back, but in retrospect, I should've tore into him immediately after I learned he was making her text even as she was driving (putting her life at risk along with the lives of others just to satiate his ego) to answer his moronic questions about why she was where she was or where she was going that could damn well wait (and shouldn't have been a burning issue anyway).
I attract emotionally unstable and needy guys and I also have Sun in Aquarius and Venus in Aquarius. I don't have nearly as much Neptune as your friend (Neptune in 1st conjunct Uranus and Mercury, and a couple minor aspects w/ Neptune) Is this a theme...? And am I doomed lol
If they don't get what they want from me, eventually there might even be controlling behavior and emotional manipulation. Ugh just thinking about it alone makes my skin crawl. No one lords over my life.
But I have a lot of saturn influence and a fair bit of uranus influence too, so...
quote:Originally posted by missblyss: I've got Venus in Aries
Me too.
I'm not into clingy men...... my sun opposite Uranus wouldn't like that......
And yes, I must admit to liking clingy partners... though I wouldn't like TRUE clingy, not so much so that i get zero breathing room (have attracted one like that), but I like how my present partner is over at my house every night reliably... and checks in... and cares. I wouldn't be likely to get into something with someone who just disappeared for days at a time. I'd be really unhappy.
He doesn't interrogate me and is really an independent person... I seem to go for either Cancer stelliums or folks with strong Sagittarius these days... yet this present guy isn't clingy like Cancer, has Cancer on the 2nd house cusp though so he is pretty sentimental and clingy when it comes to money and resources! ... he has a lot of Taurus planets--Venus/Mars/Mercury... and as a Scorpio rising/Sun/Mercury/Pluto I really like Taurus' brand of possessiveness.... makes me feel secure. But his Sagittarius descendant makes him a bit unpredictable. He wants certain kinds of loyalty and obeisance but also needs and wants someone distant and independent... very tricky. It often produces situations where he is with two people: one who is unattainable and one who is totally there for him but whom he doesn't feel totally devoted to. His Venus/Chiron conjunction is partly to blame, as well as a Sagittarius South Node in the 7th house conjunct Neptune... so his Neptune-ness is fraught. He does have Juno in Pisces too.
But anyway... he seems to be interested in what I do.. and to value the security the relationship brings him also.
I know some of this is due to our personal insecurities and some of it just means we enjoy being together and staying in touch, being accountable to one another.
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